Too much change has taken place since the Discipline days. And who knows what GH will bring to the mix… I saw him play with P Tree last december and he was stunning. (I’m going to bet that GH will take over main “rock” drum duties and PM will end up more on the electronic side of things, but i could be wrong, and probably will be).

I think having just the one bassist, maybe even sticking to bass guitar most of the time could be a catalyst for this incarnation of the band. Come on, 99% of rock bands manage fine with just a bassist. And Trey’s absence will leave more room for Belew and Fripp. Crimson managed fine back in the day with just one bass, one (acoustic) kit, one guitar and vocals. And that was before Fripp got his huge rack of effects!

It would be great to see Fripp et al take the ball from bands like Tool and Porcupine Tree (who were influenced by Crim in the first place). But who knows….

Similar instruments, but in the hands of these 2 MASTERS, the outcome is world’s apart…..
Each has a totally different approach to their instruments.

Tony Levin, in my world, is one of THE FOUR KINGS OF KC. His approach to bass lines is totally supreme - like no other, Tony will take a piece, and turn in into something totally incredible. He, like no other I have experienced, has taken the bass, from being a sometimes boring and repetitive - but none the less important - anchor for the piece, into a starring role up front and centre in its own right. One needs to look no further than ‘Sleepless’, and ‘Three of a Perfect Pair’, just for starters. His bass line is not just the back-bone, it is the whole emphasis, within the song. Truly brilliant. I think it was Adrian Belew who once said that Tony was just so good, that he could take any song, and would know instinctively, the combination of the best bass notes for the piece, and play them just right. Truly a MASTER of his instrument.

As for Trey, even when he played the stick earlier on in his career, his sound was biased towards his piano roots - as is evidenced later with works such as ‘The Deception of the Trush’…… The Warr guitar is a perfect combination for Trey, as it gives him the range similar to that of the piano - allowing him to go wherever the piece may require, and not be restricted just to the bass register/parts. The Double Trio era was the perfect construKct for Trey, as Tony took care of the bass pieces, leaving Trey open to add his incredible talent and enterpretations to the KC classics of that era. Later he would go on, and take up the role of the bassist, which he did, and made is own, with the combination and use of the full register available to him on the Warr Guitar. (For more info on Trey Gunn, checkout this link to a really interesting recent article about Trey and Warr Guitars -
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/May/Gunning_for_Warr.aspx
Truly a MASTER of his instrument also.

When I heard that the mighty beast was re-awakening in preparation for the 40th anniversary of KC, and that Gavin Harrison was to be included as an additional drummer beside P@, I dared to hope that just maybe, RF, in his brilliance, had decided to try the ‘Double Trio’ format once again - and that Trey may be returning to the fold for this short tour…… But it seems that my dreams have been dashed against the rocks of despair. Alas, no Trey. But boy, what a wonderful reunion it would have been. It has come then, as no surprise to me, that, contrary to RF’s seeming distaste for ‘old music’ in past construKcts/tours of late, the new version of KC will be returning to playing some good old classic 80’s (the four kings) era Crimson …. i.e. LTIA II, 3OAPP, Thela, Sex, and from later on - Elephant and Dinosaur……
Of course, no sight of ‘The Deception of the Trush’, or any other classics from the late 90’s and new millenium era. Without Trey, it would be pretty tough for Tony to fully replicate that which Trey brought to the musical feast.
So yes, I grieve the great loss of Trey Gunn’s presence in the King Crimson line-up. A large gap that seems will remain unfilled.

It literally has 100’s of BT Complaints during 2007 and 2008.
Its a good place to read other peoples BT problems and a place where you can send in your complaints rather than wasting your time with BT Customer Service who I found to be a complete waste of time.

Anyone thinking of signing up, don’t, you WILL regret it.

Read the hundreds of BT complaints I have received so far and submit your own BT Complaint: http://hubpages.com/hub/BT-Complaints

Inadequately trained part timers seems to be the norm.

I recently got slammed by talk, talk. Like some of you my recorded letters of complaint and request for compensation were ignored until I contacted Ofcom who wrote to them on my behalf. This resulted in a call from the chief executive and my mobile costs of £20.00.

I urge people not to suffer in silence - refuse to hang on the phone line for more that 10 minutes. Put everything requests as well as complaints in writing, let B.T know that you have sent copies to watchdog and Ofcom. Make some noise and get heard.

The customer service is poor beyond belief, there are a few gems in the company but to be honest they had a very bad case of pass the buck!!! No one can help you and what is worse is that those who want to help you can’t because their logon limits what they can view and action.

Can you believe it a complaints manager cut me off and then didn’t call me back, they are supposed to be a communications if anyone has my phone number they do!!!! LOL

Outrageous, what’s worse is that all of our experiences seem to be the norm. So much for the worlds oldest communications company…wait for it… in the WORLD!!!!!!!

They sent me a letter at the end of August saying that some new customer was going to take over my phone line and on the 10th of August the line would have been cut off, unless stated differently by me. So I phoned to make sure the line would not been cut off and they didn`t even know what i was talking about. No matter how many times I called and no matter how many time they promised that wouldn`t happen they cut my line off on the 10th of August.

Then I received a bill with all the penality charges for ” having close my line and broadband”before the end of the contract!!

I phoned again to complain ad before managing to get something out of it I have to go through rude, unwilling, incompetent, neglicent customer service operators who never knew anything about it. They said they would have looked into it and call me back, they never did. They hanged up on my face if I was sligthly upset, maybe in the enthusiasm of explain the story for the twentieth time. Eventually aftern hours of waiting at the phone I managed to have 128.48 pound credit for the charges I had to pay.

So at that point I had the credit but no phone line. I called to get my line back and they said I had to pay 120.00 for riconnecting it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I tryed to explaing the story again and they wouldn`t listen, plus again phone hanged up on my face. So for the next couple of months I tried to find another phone company , but it turned out that BT was the only one able to provide the phone line in the area I live.

Around mis December I called BT again bcause I need internet for work and obviously they said that they were sorry, but the 120.00 charge had to be paid, BUT I could have claimed my credit pf 128.48 pound in my first bill.

The only thing I had to do is to call as soon as the engineer would have installed the new line. So I did. I talked to an Indian woman who assured me the credit would have been used, I called back again to make sure that woman did her job and this time I talked to an English wonam who assured me everything would have gone trough. Well this morning I received my first BT bill of 157.68 pound without the credit taken out.

I just called them and I got the usual promise of a call back in the next 24 hours. I want them dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is there nothing we can do all together to make them eat some of their own shit??? there must be especially because we are soo many unhappy costumers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the feedback. Do you have any tips of tricks yourself?